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DEBATE FORUM - If Immortality creates Horrible Overpopulation, what New Zones should We Colonize?

Posted: Thu, March 14, 2013 | By: DEBATE



Although Max More’s essay provides reasons why radical life extension would not lead to horrific overpopulation, many “deathists” still list this as a primary reason for they they oppose significantly extending human life.

Let’s just assume that population will keep increasing… if that happens, where would humans live? Do any of the options below appeal to you?

  • Colonize the oceans, with floating islands and immense ships.
  • Colonize Antarctica and other uninhabited regions,with glass-domed temperature-controlled communities.
  • Colonize the ocean floor.
  • Dig underground, and into mountains, like moles- build immense subterranean cities.
  • Colonize the Moon.
  • Colonize Mars.
  • Build huge satellites that each provide habitation for 100,000 people, that circumnavigate the Earth.
  • None of the above, just ban breeding, or make people “cue up” for permission to multiply.
  • other…

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My own preference would be to colonize tropical oceans, as soon as desalination is efficient. Aquaculture would be easily available as both a food source and an economic option.

My second choice would be “gophering” into mountains.

By Giovanni Santostasi on Mar 14, 2013 at 6:21pm

Of course the premise is wrong since population growth is inversely proportional to Kilowatt usage per capital but - if I must assume population growth then the answer would be to genetically modify ourselves to be 6 inches tall so that we could support 60 billion with no problem on Earth.

By Jaeame I. Koyil on Mar 14, 2013 at 6:53pm

“if I must assume population growth then the answer would be to genetically modify ourselves to be 6 inches tall so that we could support 60 billion with no problem on Earth.”

And be eaten by rats and cats?
I say Mars is the place to go—if possible.

By Alan Brooks on Mar 14, 2013 at 11:24pm

Any or all of the above, once those options become technically feasible and have been properly risk-assessed. But we need to think about our messaging here. One of the more credible accusations that technosceptics tend to hurl at transhumanists is that we are all gung-ho technoenthuasiasts, na├»vely dreams our techno-utopian dreams, and woefully underestimating the risks. I can easily handle people telling me that defeating the ageing process is “not natural”, but when they worry about overpopulation I’m more inclined to sympathise, and to the extent that I still want to convince them I’d be more inclined to try to tease out what other concerns they might have and respond to them, rather than hitting them with a bunch of “we’re going to colonise other planets”-type ideas.

Well, maybe I should read that Max More article…

By Peter Wicks on Mar 15, 2013 at 2:43am

Of all terrestrial locations to locate massively swelling populations the deserts seem smartest - all exotic locations require considerable investments, deserts require the least. What is smartest and most affordable is to dig a broad channel in a deep groove or canyon and let people live in apartments on either side of the channel. That would filter out harsh desert sunlight and it would mean access to straight linear roadways, and flowing water - and desert on either side to cultivate plants and solar energy.

By letting such a canyon meander through the desert landscape it would be easy to house millions sustainably. Travel up and down the canyon would be easy by monorail.

http://www.greendiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/sietch-nevada-2_pmA24_11446.jpg

http://inhabitat.com/sietch-nevada-desert-oasis-for-a-drought-stricken-future/dunecity/

By Khannea SunTzu on Mar 15, 2013 at 8:28am


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